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[edit] IRC Chat

I set up a IRC chat channel for the wiki at #fc_wiki. I am getting jkhouw1 to make a clone of Evil_Jerry for me to help moderate the channel. I will post a link to the channel later.--Tes753 19:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

• In that case IRC Chat will need updating. -- Meconopsis 21:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
  • Just to make sure you understand, this channel is for the wiki, not FC in general. I will find the right place to post the link and other info on the channel.
    • Understood. We have an excess of namespaces on this wiki at present. IMO we should sort this out. We have Main, User, Fantastic Wiki, Image, MediaWiki, Template, Help, Category, FCResource, Guide, Project and FC. We can discuss the need for FCResource, and Guide later, but FC is definitely not required. Its sole page is FC:Chatroom. I would like to suggest that we merge both FC:Chatroom and Fantastic Wiki:IRC chat into the stub IRC Chat and discuss both #fc and #fc_wiki there. Then we should delete all traces of namespace FC and make Fantastic Wiki:IRC chat a redirect. -- Meconopsis 07:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
      • I agree completely with all of what you said. I will be away from the computer for a week though, so you can go ahead and do your magic. Sk89q or other sysop intervention may be needed--Tes753 17:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
        • Evil_Jerry is set up. He will have wiki specific commands later.--Tes753 01:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
          • Done. -- Meconopsis 15:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
      • Can't touch Main, User, Image, MediaWiki, Template, or Category. Fantastic Wiki is about the wiki. FCResource is used for help files for FC Resource, since the wiki used to be hosted on FC Resource after all. Guide is for guides. We don't mix Guides and Main because Main is primarily used to document something, not explain it in depth or provide a tutorial. Project is used for things that need to be hosted (and at the time, didn't belong on FC Resource, because I didn't have a place to put them on the site), but don't really belong in the Main namespace because they're not about FC (i.e. game sprays). FC is for help files for FC. For example, the IRC channel article in the main namespace would be for history, and such, while the article in the FC namespace would have the rules, the FAQ, and things you would find in a help file. There are some pages in murky waters though, such as List of frequently asked questions, which probably belong in the FC namespace, but the FC namespace did not exist at the time because it wasn't a wiki hosted on FC. --sk89q 17:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
        • Ok... I kinda lost you there, but I think I got it. So, wheres the rules page? I can't seem to find it. Please list all of the IRC related pages here for me. Thanks again sk!--71.252.170.3 21:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
          • Sorry about that, I forgot to log in.--Tes753 21:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wheels

There are three pages for wheels: Powered wheels, Unpowered wheels, and Wheel, the two more exact pages are in the categories Category:Parts & Category:Objects, whereas just wheel is only in parts. I think that we should move all three articles into Wheel, and link that to both categories, which will change 3 stubs into one useful page, is this ok? -- Skips

• I have done it anyway, the two old pages redirect to the page Wheel, and all of the pages' information has been merged. -- Skips
  • Sounds good to me. (I haven't r4ead the article yet though...) -- Meconopsis

[edit] Category:Guide

Anyone understand the significance of Category:Guide and Category:Guides - why do we have both? -- Meconopsis 06:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

• I created the Category:Guide when I did not understand categories and how they auto list pages in that category. I created the second category to remedy the problem not knowing what was happening. I suggest deleting Category:Guide. I will transfer the one page in Category:Guide to Category:Guides. Please put in your input. I can explain more if needed.--tes753~Owner of #fc_wiki~ 03:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Having verified that everything in Category:Guide is also in Category:Guides and that nothing material linked to Category:Guide, I have deleted Category:Guide. -- Meconopsis 21:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Thanks Meconopsis, I already ensured that all pages listed in the "Guide" Category was in the "Guides" Category, but thanks for double checking anyways. --tes753~Owner of #fc_wiki~ 00:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Physics Pages

If you look around the wiki, there are several pages which mostly just contain one line, describing the physics of the games, examples include:

• Work, Energy, Density, Stress, Gravity, Center of gravity, Weight, Tension, Force, Mass

This creates a lot of short articles, most of which do not contribute much and are simply based on Wikipedia entries or on basic knowledge, perhaps we should put all these pages in a collaboration, such as Physics. -- Skips 11:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

• I concur. Bear in mind List of physics parameters as well. -- Meconopsis 15:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I agree with Skips. We should combine all the physics pages listed above into one page.--tes753 15:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
• I've merged the several pages into the page physics and have redirected all the old pages towards it. -- Skips 09:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Brotherhood

Is Brotherhood an appropriate page to have, or should it be deleted? It is harmless but is a page of self-promotion. My inclination is to delete it but I won't without some consensus. Please post replies on Talk:Brotherhood. -- Meconopsis 11:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Internal links to Wikipedia?

I was messing around with my user page and I noticed that you can internally link ("[[ and ]]"'s) Wikipedia pages to this wiki. Just a random note!--tes753 23:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I suspect that that is a bug! I would prefer off FC references to be done in the excternal link fashion so thatthey show upin a different colour etc. -- Meconopsis 21:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Tes has done a welcome template (see below). In my opinion this is the wrong type of welcome message: It is very big (takes up most of the screen); is not personalised - it isn't a welocme from an existing user; is full of stuff that duplicates the main screen; it doesn't actually come across as a welcome - just as being hit by a rule book. I would prefer a simple signed textual two liner without graphics and a SINGLE link to somewhere that all the other information can be obtained. If made into a template, I would also prefer it to be a 'subst' rather than a 'template'. If this was placed on my talk page, the first thing I would do would be to delete it. Thoughts please folk. -- Meconopsis 07:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree that is huge, perhaps we can use all the special code to put their username in, because that would personalise it. I don't know if his intention is for weird users or for everybody, because if it is for everybody, it definately needs to be shrunk, otherwise, like you said, you are just throwing the rule book at them. -- Skips 17:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I (Meconopsis) would prefer something along the lines of:

"
Welcome to the Fantastic Wiki. Feel free to edit articles to improve their content on the Fantastic Contraption game. We have guides that we hope will help you. Please do not write about other topics. Thanks. -- Meconopsis 21:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
"
where guides links to something with all the info from Tes' template. -- Meconopsis 21:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you like what I did with the template?I deleted the template you posted above and will put an example down below.--tes753 22:45, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Welcome, tes753, to the Fantastic Contraption Wiki. Please feel free to improve it. If you feel lost, please check out our site map. If you need any more help, just post on the Workshop. Remember to stay on topic and 'remain chill'. -- ~~~~

Hope this is what you wanted!

[edit] Official Levels 22-44

With these levels, there are a lot less records than for the orignial 21 levels, so does a full scale table with every possibility fit their wiki pages? I started by editing Pit & Pendulum, just because the layout was atrocious. So should we edit the rest to look like this, or stick with continuity of the previous levels and add the huge table which will mostly be empty? I've also edited Chimi, but that was mostly deleting stuff. -- Skips 19:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I say that the level template used on levels 1-21 should be carried over to levels 22-42 to create a uniform look throughout the wiki. I do agree that the table might be quiet empty on most of those levels.--tes753 22:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I suggest the able from 1-21, in general, for all levels since obver the years the entries may be found and it would be consistent. -- Meconopsis 22:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)